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Spell Equivalent of a Flashbang Grenade?

So here's my problem: for an upcoming adventure, I need a low-level spell that can act as the equivalent of a flashbang. But I can't figure out what to use. Glitterdust might do the trick, but it only...

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Use more glitterdust or use Widen Spell.--Michaelhttp://outlands.tripod.comhomesteading, survival, self-reliance, and a whole lot more

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Or use a large amount of an alchemical substance to get the effect (if it's a one-off and you control where it's to take place you can easily fudge something). Maybe something like this:Flashbang:...

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The hallmark of the flashbang (to me) is the loud noise and stun that seems to go along with it - which makes it very much like Soundburst. The only real difference is that there might be a chance to...

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there was a third level spell in a 3.0 splat book, flashburst i think. just light no sound long range 30 ft radius will save or be blinded for a short duration(unsure). no other damage but a mass...

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Glitterdust is an area of effect blindness spell AND it also nerfs invisibility (possibly displacement as well, YMMV). This is a second level spell. It doesn't seem that unrealistic to me to take away...

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Isn't there an item called a "flash pellet" or something like that in Complete Adventurer?

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Quick question about glitterdust - while the spell continues, do new targets who move into the cloud area also get blinded? Or does the dust settle and only affect those who were in the area?

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They also get blinded and revealed until the duration ends.

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You could try pyrotechnics. Have a companion chuck a alchemist fire into the room and hold your action to cast. Or you could just make up a new spell...I based this on color spray with a few...

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thats not bad , blinded deafened and stunned for one round is pretty versatile i dont think any creature is immune to all three. the level limits is a nice modifierthe range is short which is much...

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Quote:Overall it seems to be a better spell than color spray.Its a close call. Fortitude saves are generally better then Will saves and some of the effects don't last as long as color spray but I...

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Hmm. What do you think of this?GlitterburstConjuration (Creation)Level: Sor/Wiz 2Components: V, S, M.Casting Time: 1 standard action.Range: 15 ft.Area: Cone-shaped burst. Duration: 1 round/levelSaving...

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i dont see the advantage over glitterdusti do see some bad wording, duration should be instantaneous unless you want to walk around spraying everything with it for so many roundsthe description should...

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Quote:i dont see the advantage over glitterdustThe advantage is primarily strategic. Going back to the reason I started this thread, glitterdust doesn't really work as a flashbang equivalent, since if...

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Well, there's flare, that cantrip. But that only hits one target.Well, flashbangs not only make a bright light, they also make a loud sound, hence the name flash + bang. They are used to disorientate...

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Re: Spell Equivalent of a Flashbang Grenade?

I dont see a much of a problem with that one. range is ok. small radius is ok. IM not sure why dazzled counters the blinding effect. It seems to be squarely in the 2nd level.

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Re: Spell Equivalent of a Flashbang Grenade?

Whoops, hehe... my bad. A little copy & paste error there Should be if their already blinded, they can't be 're'blinded...Maybe even through in a bit about silence countering the sound part of the...

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